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00:30:47 massimiliano fusari, PhD: Hi Kirby what a pleasure to be in the same room with you! Have been following you for many years!

00:33:07 Evan Kananack: Hey from Los Angeles!

00:33:11 Justin Kramm: ShitshowCreative.com: Fort Lauderdale, Florida

00:33:12 Amon Poston: Hi from Atlanta!

00:33:14 Scott Heath: Hello from Raleigh, NC

00:33:15 Thanassis Psaltis: Hi all! Joining from Halifax, Nova Scotia :)

00:33:17 Mark Kolb: Hello from Austin

00:33:19 duncan: Hi from Thessaloniki, Greece!

00:33:19 Kirsten Bradley: Good afternoon

00:33:19 William (Bill) Leach: San Diego

00:33:21 Bradon Webb: Hi from Chicago

00:33:22 patrickkohlhagen: Aloha from Hawaii

00:33:25 donna: Hi from the Bay Area, California!

00:33:28 Davey LeMieux: Hello from Los Angeles

00:33:33 Scott Stowell (he/him) | Open: Hello from New York

00:33:34 Daniel: NYC!

00:33:36 Ramon Vullings: Antwerp (a Dutchie in Belgium)

00:33:38 Tim: Edmonton, Canada

00:33:42 Daniel Hettrick: Hey from Elizabethton, TN

00:34:02 Justin Kramm: ShitshowCreative.com: Reacted to "Hi from the Bay Area..." with ❤️

00:34:06 Ramon Vullings: Great to see you all! 👋

00:34:23 Bryan Findell: Denver

00:34:26 massimiliano fusari, PhD: Max from italy

00:34:32 Andy MacBride: Hi from Santa Monica

00:34:33 Mark J. Hulme: Duarte, CA

00:34:43 john vella: Dallas is in.

00:34:58 kulvir lehal: Zurich, Switzerland

00:35:11 Justin Kramm: ShitshowCreative.com: Reacted to "Max from italy" with ❤️

00:35:11 Dylan Isaac: Buffalo NY, GO BILLS

00:35:11 Stefan: Swede, calling in from Italy

00:35:12 Mathew Wilson: Cotswolds, UK

00:35:24 Dylan Isaac: you

00:37:15 M Cohen: Just wanna callout all the awesome content Kirby has put out there over the years! 👏🤩

00:37:21 Mark J. Hulme: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 👍

00:37:27 Jeff Engelhardt: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ❤️

00:37:32 Mark Kolb: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ➕

00:37:33 kulvir lehal: Reacted to "Just wanna callout..." with ❤️

00:37:34 donna: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 💯

00:37:35 Daniel Hettrick: Replying to "Just wanna callout a..."

+1

00:37:37 Daniel Hettrick: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 💯

00:37:42 Scott Heath: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ➕

00:37:42 duncan: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 👍

00:37:43 duncan: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ❤️

00:37:44 Bryan Findell: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ❤️

00:37:46 Bryan Findell: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 💯

00:37:57 duncan: Replying to "Just wanna callout a..."

OMG yes. Fundamentally awesome work over the years.

00:38:11 M Cohen: Reacted to "OMG yes. Fundamental..." with 💯

00:38:41 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 💯

00:38:46 M Cohen: meaning = fullfilling

00:41:25 Evan Kananack: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with 💯

00:41:45 M Cohen: Happiness, fulfillment, hope

00:42:52 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: That the Journey IS the Reward.

00:43:12 M Cohen: @Kirby Ferguson - does this have to be something we have, or can it be something we also want for ourselves?

00:44:03 Ramon Vullings: Reacted to "Just wanna callout a..." with ❤️

00:44:21 Ramon Vullings: Replying to "Just wanna callout a..."

Oh yes! Kirby rocks!

00:47:06 M Cohen: Yes! Media Literacy is critical thinking!

00:47:42 Andy MacBride: Love that, Scott

00:48:27 Scott Heath: Reacted to "Love that, Scott" with 🧠

00:51:17 M Cohen: Comedy can be one of the few mechanisms to have valuable societal commentary

00:51:21 kulvir lehal: absolutely

00:52:00 M Cohen: “Either side” - are there only 2 (assuming the US)?

00:52:45 Evan Kananack: Is the goal here that we’re focusing on what’s practical?

00:53:00 Kirby Ferguson: nope evan!

00:53:04 Kirby Ferguson: don’t worry about that for now

00:53:05 Evan Kananack: Reacted to "nope evan!" with 👍

00:53:14 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "“Either side” - are ..." with 🫠

00:54:13 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Appreciation for time as the only fundmentally limited resource.

00:54:28 Kirby Ferguson: yes!

00:55:20 M Cohen: Totally flawed, ie: waiting for retirement..

00:55:43 Daniel Hettrick: 💯

00:56:03 Mathew Wilson: You should check out the book Metaphors We Live By 👍

00:56:16 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "You should check out..." with ❤️

00:56:37 Dylan Isaac: Reacted to "You should check out..." with 👍

00:57:28 M Cohen: Re meetings; no agenda, no meeting.

00:57:37 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Totally flawed, ie: ..." with 💯

00:57:45 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "You should check out..." with 👍🏻

00:57:55 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Re meetings; no agen..." with 💯

00:57:59 duncan: Fake Steve Jobs had to be a spin off blog to work.

00:58:04 Justin Kramm: ShitshowCreative.com: Reacted to "Fake Steve Jobs had ..." with ❤️

00:58:12 Scott Heath: A salary clock that adds up each dollar spent per second in a meeting based on the sum of everyone’s salaries

00:58:22 M Cohen: Reacted to "A salary clock that ..." with ❤️

00:58:35 Evan Kananack: Reacted to "A salary clock that ..." with 😂

00:59:33 M Cohen: Replying to "A salary clock that ..."

Gotta find that meeting decision tree meme….

01:00:55 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "Gotta find that meet..." with 😂

01:01:29 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "A salary clock that ..."

Ha! That’s on our dashboard… “Cost Meeter” matters.

01:01:48 Scott Heath: Reacted to "Ha! That’s on our da..." with 💸

01:04:05 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Since there seems some interest:

Next CoLab launched with a bold promise: to reinvent the modern meeting. By capturing both qualitative nuance and quantitative insight, our AI platform transforms every meeting into actionable intelligence—revealed through dynamic dashboards that drive decisions, accountability, and results. You can’t improve what you don’t measure.

If you want access to the free private beta, DM me with your email via LinkedIn. linkedin.com/in/royvella

01:04:07 M Cohen: “Dance like no ones looking”

01:04:13 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "“Dance like no ones ..." with 🙏🏻

01:04:48 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: “Retribution by the Internet”… that might be the winning memorable phrase.

01:04:57 duncan: Reacted to "“Retribution by the ..." with ❤️

01:04:59 Justin Kramm: ShitshowCreative.com: Reacted to "“Retribution by the ..." with ❤️

01:05:01 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "“Retribution by the ..." with ❤️

01:05:08 M Cohen: Yet the issue IMO is caring to much what others think of us

01:06:16 Andy MacBride: For me, the project size is overwhelming; habit that could help = daily micro-goals

01:06:47 M Cohen: Replying to "For me, the project ..."

"The tallest trees from acorns grow”….

01:06:59 duncan: Replying to "Yet the issue IMO is..."

The courage to be disliked: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43306206-the-courage-to-be-disliked

01:07:04 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "For me, the project ..." with 💯

01:07:20 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "For me, the project ..."

Just doing the NEXT STEP…

01:07:39 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "The courage to be di..." with 🙏🏻

01:07:52 Ramon Vullings: Replying to "Yet the issue IMO is..."

And like Austin Kleon says: ‘A willingness to look stupid’ 😉

01:08:21 Andy MacBride: Reacted to ""The tallest trees f..." with 👍

01:08:36 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Use this prompt tp kill the sycophant… but beware, the gloves are now off and it’s bare-knuckled.

01:08:39 Andy MacBride: Reacted to "Just doing the NEXT ..." with 👍

01:08:52 Jack: averaging or reductive? i find that ai by design gives the most mid output

01:09:15 Kirby Ferguson: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

totally valid take!

01:09:31 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

Average - Mid - Mean… that’s the safe bet if the model has no idea who you are.

01:10:00 Mathew Wilson: I’ve heard writers say “kill your darlings”

01:10:17 Mathew Wilson: Reacted to "I’ve heard writers s..." with 😬

01:10:20 Bryan Findell: Often, “done” is more beautiful than perceived perfection.

01:10:37 Daniel Hettrick: Replying to "I’ve heard writers s..."

Yes. Stephen King is a huge advocate of this.

01:10:53 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Yes. Stephen King is..." with 💯

01:10:56 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "I’ve heard writers s..." with 😬

01:11:04 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Often, “done” is mor..." with 🙏🏻

01:11:32 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

can you explain what you mean by a model having an idea of who you are? are we talking about an average of your previous decisions that you've fed it?

01:11:40 Ramon Vullings: Book tip: ‘Making ideas happen’ by Scott Belsky (when he was at Behance, before his Adobe time) 😉

01:11:45 Scott Heath: Reacted to "I’ve heard writers s..." with 👍

01:11:50 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

not being glib, genuinely curious

01:11:51 Scott Heath: Replying to "I’ve heard writers s..."

Cut cut cut!

01:12:00 William (Bill) Leach: Reacted to "Cut cut cut!" with 😂

01:12:09 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Cut cut cut!" with ✂️

01:12:21 William (Bill) Leach: Reacted to "I’ve heard writers s..." with 😯

01:12:34 Kirby Ferguson: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

you can feed it info about who you are, and also, the thread will inform it.

01:12:42 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "I’ve heard writers s..." with 😬

01:12:46 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "Often, “done” is mor..." with 🙏🏻

01:12:53 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "Book tip: ‘Making id..." with 👏

01:13:09 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

Happy to discuss… Context is almost more important than Content when using LLMs. It makes a massive, massive difference.

01:13:53 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

Not only who you are but, more importantly, who you want IT to be in the exchange. That’s the magic.

01:14:16 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

when y'all are using ai in this way, do you feel like it truly knows you? or that it can fulfull this desire?

01:14:25 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "Happy to discuss… Co..." with ❤️

01:14:34 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

or do you feel like what kirby is doing right now is actually more helpful?

01:15:16 Kirby Ferguson: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

@Jack oh it doesn’t know you. i would be pretty critical of what it tells you.

01:15:32 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

At the very least, it becomes much, much more helpful and insightful. Nothing beats a human exchange quite yet…

01:16:01 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "@Jack oh it doesn’t ..." with 💯

01:16:15 Kirby Ferguson: Replying to "averaging or reducti..."

i think it’s wise to look at AI output as mostly either bad or not useful. you have to do a lot of curating.

01:16:30 Bradon Webb: I think both are valuable, what Kirby is doing is more helpful in the sense of accountability when we are faced across another human the accountability is different than with a computer program/chatbot

01:16:37 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

most creative work is an editors medium

01:16:47 Jack: Replying to "averaging or reduc..."

thanks guys!

01:16:51 Scott Heath: A safe place to fail

01:17:11 Scott Heath: I highly recommend a Powerpoint Party

01:17:49 Ramon Vullings: Replying to "I highly recommend a..."

Yes! PowerPoint Karaoke (yet with Apple Keynote 😄)

01:17:51 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Replying to "I highly recommend a..."

You know people who would come to a Powerpoint Party?!? You have some truly loving friends.

01:17:54 Evan Kananack: Reacted to "I highly recommend a..." with ❤️

01:18:22 Kirby Ferguson: Replying to "I highly recommend a..."

i need to know more about this!

01:19:17 Ramon Vullings: Replying to "I highly recommend a..."

@Kirby Ferguson When we meet physically we’ll do a ‘PowerPoint Karaoke’ with some buddies. Great fun! 🎉

01:19:34 Kirby Ferguson: Reacted to "@Kirby Ferguson When..." with 😂

01:19:48 Jack: as someone that shoots a lot of film too, sometimes the waiting on the roll can also spark creativity thinking about the shots you did take and how they turned out, and the ones you missed

01:19:58 Jack: the rumination helps me sometimes, dont know about you

01:19:59 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "@Kirby Ferguson When..." with 😂

01:20:19 massimiliano fusari, PhD: I agree thanks @Jack

01:20:47 Kirsten Bradley: Powerpoint Karaoke: I use this game to help my students prepare for their Ignite Talk

01:20:58 Kirsten Bradley: Reacted to "@Kirby Ferguson When..." with 👍🏾

01:21:33 Jack: Reacted to "I agree thanks @Ja..." with 🙏

01:21:54 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "Powerpoint Karaoke: ..." with 👍🏻

01:22:03 Ramon Vullings: Reacted to "Powerpoint Karaoke: ..." with 👍

01:22:23 Jack: scott something you just said made me think of something, tool building can be its own creativity. process is part of the whole game

01:23:03 Jack: tool building/tool making as a means to greasing the rails of output

01:23:09 Scott Heath: Reacted to "scott something you ..." with 👍

01:24:27 Kirby Ferguson: You can save $50 on Infinite Remix Spark

MEANINGSPARK

01:24:50 M Cohen: Time well spent - thanks @Kirby Ferguson !

01:25:03 Kirby Ferguson: Apply for a scholarship

https://forms.gle/VZHumpwsTGQSfdN76

01:25:09 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Excellent stuff. Much appreciated.

01:25:11 Bryan Findell: Thanks for sharing everyone and for hosting Kirby. This was great to get things written down.

01:25:12 massimiliano fusari, PhD: @Kirby Ferguson - I already signed up - can I still get the discount or use it for another occasion?

01:25:24 Bradon Webb: Thank you Kirby - Legend!

01:25:25 kulvir lehal: thanks Kirby! :)

01:25:34 kulvir lehal: What are you working on next?

01:25:47 Mathew Wilson: Indeed – Just thanks for all encouragement, inspiration and everything you put out there 🙏

01:25:52 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: Reacted to "What are you working..." with 👆🏻

01:26:03 M Cohen: Cause we’re more lost than the gals….

01:26:06 Jack: CONSPIRACIES

01:26:10 Andy MacBride: Thanks Kirby, great questions and process

01:26:11 massimiliano fusari, PhD: Thanks @Kirby Ferguson !

01:26:16 Kirsten Bradley: I’m wondering too👧🏾

01:26:19 Jack: guys love to conspure

01:26:21 Jack: conspire

01:26:31 Roy Vella | bit.ly/royv: add 🫠

01:26:48 john vella: Everything is an ASMRemix

01:26:50 Mark Kolb: interesting observation. My writer’s group (besides me) is all women!

01:26:55 Bryan Findell: Reacted to "Everything is an ASM..." with 😂

01:26:59 Mathew Wilson: Reacted to "Everything is an ASM..." with 😂

01:27:01 Jack: guys conspire, women commune

01:27:13 Ramon Vullings: Thanks @Kirby Ferguson and thanks to the whole group!

01:28:26 M Cohen: @Kirby Ferguson content is some of the most inspiring and resonating content !

01:28:26 Andy MacBride: Fully agree with @Daniel Hettrick

01:28:28 Ramon Vullings: Pro tip: if you want to support Kirby even more… become a Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/kirbyferguson 🚀

01:28:35 Scott Heath: Thank you!

01:28:43 Kirsten Bradley: Thanks!

01:28:45 Evan Kananack: Thank you!

01:28:46 Scott Heath: Thanks everyone!

01:28:49 kulvir lehal: bye everyone cheers kirby!

01:28:50 Scott Stowell (he/him) | Open: Thank you!

01:28:52 Thanassis Psaltis: Thanks Kirby!

01:28:57 Kirby Ferguson: bye folks!

01:28:58 Ramon Vullings: Bye!